From: John R. Carpenter
Subject: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Newsletter - Dec 2007
Date: December 31, 2007 15:46:21 MST
Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Newsletter - December 2007
Greetings for the New Year!
The Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project is a diversified group. Every one is a volunteer and no one gets paid for any work. A special Thank You goes out to those that help others. This includes my fellow Administrators Jim Carpenter, Terry Lee Carpenter & John F. Chandler for all their efforts!
We now have 166 FTDNA members with 160 kits returned. This includes our Genographic transfers. When you add 17 kits from other DNA testing companies, this puts us well over the 175 mark.
We have 18 organized Groups based on DNA matches. Groups 98 & 99 (31 & 16) represent over 1/3 of our members.
Many members wait for a long time for a match to come along. Randomness can be very frustrating while waiting. Take a positive step by recruiting someone on your lineage will help create a Group and more interest. This means getting out there and talking to Carpenters about Carpenters and Y-DNA. You can do it!
I would be happy to list on our web page anyone that wants to become one of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Group Leaders. This person would organize, encourage and recruit new members for their Group. They could also provide updates and material for other members. If you are interested in being a Group Leader, please let me know.
Our General Fund stands at $206.00. We have never had much more than this to help others for DNA testing. Donations are few and far between. If we had a good source for donations, we could upgrade some tests where needed and collect selected DNA samples. Several other Y-DNA Projects have sponsors, corporations or grants to assist them. Do you know someone who can help?
Be careful about your FTDNA password. If you forget it and can not get onto your personal results web page, contact Ashley Coursey at FTDNA.
ashley@familytreedna.com
The Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project uses the FTDNA kit number to represent you on our web page. When you upload your results to Y-Search, you are given another ID number. This is done to protect your privacy. When another member shares their information with you, please respect their privacy by not sharing without consent. We need to work together as a team to accomplish our goals. If you need help in this area, please feel free to let me know.
Have you checked your lineage on our lineage page to check for accuracy? If it is not there, did you forget to send in your Carpenter or related surname pedigree? See:
http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/generallineage.htm
Sometimes new research will change your lineage. Does your new research change your lineage as posted?
How many Y-DNA markers are enough? Most of us are aware that 12 markers are good enough for Haplogroups or deep ancestry that involves thousands of years or more. Thus 12 markers are very limited to genealogical projects.
Table 1 represents the first 25 markers from left to right tested by FTDNA.
http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm#table1
The 25 marker test is our suggested standard. This gives us the minimal number of markers to compare on the genealogical scale of within a thousand of years or so. For example the difference between Groups 2 & 3 is one marker out of 25. With random mutations, sometimes additional testing is needed to determine which Group a member may belong to. This is handled case by case today. We thank those selected members who were willing to confirm these markers by additional testing.
Table 2 represents markers 26-37 from FTDNA from the left with additional markers from Sorenson (SMGF). DYS441 starts the SMGF markers.
http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm#table2
At the 37 marker test, we have enough markers to see some sub-group markers. These are mutations that may be specific to a particular branch of the Group in question. These branch or sub-group mutations can potentially help narrow the genealogical research area for those in need. At this time, only Group 3 has several members to hint at these sub-group markers.
Group 2 could benefit from more testing on 37 or more marker level to determine sub-group markers. The same may apply for Groups 7 & 8 who have some potential because of their numbers. Other Groups would have to be reviewed on a case by case basis as their numbers of members grow.
Table 3 shows the FTDNA DYS markers from 38 to 67 with a few SMGF marker overlaps.
http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm#table3
The 67 marker test continues to show potential for sub-group markers and to show differences in very closely related branches. Very few members have tested at this level.
We have an alternate table of all FTDNA tested results for review at:
http://www.ftdna.com/public/carpenter%20cousins%20%20dna/
This web page is prepared by FTDNA and is a slow loader. Remember, it only shows FTDNA tested results, but always shows the latest results as soon as they are available.
Remember that additional testing from one level to the next level does not require a new DNA sample. FTDNA keeps your sample safe and reuses it as needed. You also save on postage and handling during an upgrade.
Our Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project will grow because of its members and their interest. Open your mouths and talk to other Carpenters. Tell them you have tested your Y-DNA. Refer them to me to for questions that you are not able to answer. I am glad to help.
I hope all is well with you and your Families.
Happy New Year!
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project
http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm
PS I have been just advised that the letters in the FTDNA ID and passwords should be
capitalized (passwords are now case sensitive).
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