I received this from John R. Carpenter and thought some of you might be interested to know more about what is going on with the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
: Joseph W. Carpenter
: Albuquerque, NM
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Subject: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Newsletter - July 2007
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:33:49 -0500
From: John R. Carpenter
29 Jul 2007
Hello,
The Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project is an all volunteer DNA project. We have tried to take a complex subject, explain it with the results we have obtained in a reasonable and readable format.
The International Society of Genetic Genealogy or ISOGG and FamilyTree DNA has given our Y-DNA Project some of the highest marks possible. Our project has been mentioned in numerous genetic genealogy talks as an example of a good surname project. It has been reviewed by organizations and chapters of the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) and its sibling, the Sons of the American Revolution (SAR) as a good example of what a surname project can do.
We have two outstanding co-administrators for our project.
I think we have been very lucky to obtain the services of John F. Chandler, Physicist, whose good wife was born a Carpenter, as our DNA guru. He has taken a basic web page that I set up and made it into the outstanding one we have today. He has written articles for the ?Journal of Genetic Genealogy.? I will not say much about his work in ?experimental tests of general relativity, planetary ephemerides; interplanetary radar ranging; astrometric optical interferometry?, since it gives me a headache just thinking about it.
We also have the services of Terry Lee Carpenter, Major USAF, who is our Southern Carpenter expert. Terry has an excellent genealogical and disciplined mind that took disorder and organized the southern Carpenter lines. This he has done so that others may benefit by his different articles and booklets on Carpenters. I can not say much about his USAF work other than the old joke, ?If I told you, I would have to kill you.?
These two are the backbone of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project and are co-administrators. They keep it real and are very patient in explaining things to us.
Let me stress again, ?No one is paid for working on this project; all are volunteers.?
Our project is dependent on long range goals of people to willingly submit their Y-DNA in hoping to match a known group to confirm or to focus their genealogical research into a particular area of the Carpenter family.
Some wait for years before there is a match. Our first Group Administrator, now Titular, Jim Carpenter is one of them. Since September of 2002 he has never had a Carpenter Y-DNA match than those of his own immediate relatives that he has tested. He was the first member of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
OUR ?project will grow as members encourage other Carpenters to submit their Y-DNA. There are many Carpenter lines yet to be documented and linked.?
Because of recent comments, some explanations regarding the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project may be in order.
First:
The main focus since 2003 has been the 25 DYS marker FamilyTree DNA or FTDNA test. We get this test at a group discount. Table 1 is our original results table. It has the first 25 markers from FTDNA. This test is what we recommend to all members participating in our project.
Over the years we have picked up members who did not test with FTDNA. Several have come from Sorenson Molecular Genealogy or SMGF and also from YSEARCH. SMGF uses some of the same and some different DYS markers which lead to the creation of Table 2. Table 2 also supports the additional 26-37 markers later provided by FTDNA. Hint, 26 to 37 on the left is mainly FTDNA and SMGF is mainly on the right on Table 2.
Table 3 has some overlap or duplicate DYS markers when compared to Table 2. Why? Because FTDNA brought out the newer 38-67 marker Y-DNA test. Again, it overlaps with some of the SMGF markers and Table 3 shows the FTDNA marker format.
Under the ?Results? section is:
?To allow viewing these results, without side-to-side scrolling, they are divided into separate tables. Table 1 gives the loci included in FTDNA's 25-locus test (the recommended test for this project). Since most participants have followed the recommendation and tested at least to this level, Table 1 is almost completely filled in. Table 2 gives the loci included in two kinds of extensions to the recommended test: first, loci 26-37 available from FTDNA and, second, eleven more offered by SMGF or Relative Genetics. Table 3 gives yet another extension: loci 38-67 from FTDNA, which include two of the Sorenson loci shown in Table 2. For ease of comparison, the results for these two loci are displayed in both tables.?
Each ID number on the different results tables are linked, when provided, to
For those interested in the most current results directly from FTDNA, we have the following comment below Table 3:
?Note: if your results have been reported to you by FTDNA, but do not appear in the above tables, they presumably were obtained since this web page was last updated. To see the very latest results, you may visit our alternate web page, which is maintained by FTDNA and always has the latest results. Unfortunately, this FTDNA page is rather slow to load and omits the results that were obtained from other sources (currently, about 15 haplotypes).?
The hyperlink to the alternate web page is:
http://www.ftdna.com/public/carpenter%20cousins%20%20dna
Second:
About 29% of the 160 odd members of our project are in Groups 2 & 3 who match 24/25. Groups 2 & 3 represent the Providence & the Rehoboth branches of the New England Carpenter family who immigrated to America in the 1630s.
?Groups 2 and 3 are so similar that they were at first thrown in together as one group. Even now, the separation between them is subtle, and so both groups are discussed together here. For the time being, the distinction is based on locus DYS464d, which is 16 for Group 2 and 17 for Group 3.?
Interestingly enough, about 29% of members (Groups 98 & 99) do not match anyone in the Carpenter Y-DNA project. A few days ago Group 18 became a new group because of a new member matched some one who had taken their Y-DNA test years ago. Our 18 organized groups (two or more matches or similarities in Y-DNA) represent about 62% of our project.
Many members who thought they would be in one group wind up in another group. Why? It is because of the diversity in names, changes in names, occupations, formal and informal adoptions and many other unknown factors in the ?Great melting pot? of the surname Carpenter and its related surnames like Zimmerman. To put in bluntly, not all genealogies are as accurate as we think from a genetic viewpoint.
It would be a great disservice to all Carpenter Cousins to balkanize or fragment this surname project. It is still new and many more members are needed. Only by seeing the whole can we see the forest from the trees.
Ask yourself this question, ?Have you submitted your Y-DNA?? Or ask yourself this question, ?Do I have a living male Carpenter relative that I can get a Y-DNA sample from??
If you have suggestions for the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project web page or comments, please let me know.
Sincerely,
John R. Carpenter,
Carpenter Cousins Group Administrator
Please join our Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=S82066
If at any time you want to stop receiving e-mails from your DNA Project Administrator, please go to the "Setup Preferences" section of your personal page and change the corresponding setting.
Sunday, July 29, 2007
Thursday, July 19, 2007
Improved privacy settings for our Photo Gallery
Happy news...
Some people, including myself, were dismayed to learn that the contents of the photo galleries were being indexed by Google and were thus appearing in searches that had little to do with our purpose in having a website. That is to say, we were concerned about attracting the wrong kind of attention.
I wrote my own letters to SmugMug, and encouraged others to send them Email as well to politely request more control over the privacy settings.
SmugMug listened, and they have added a feature to customize the permissions that affect the google search engine.
There are three options:
Hello World!, which means Yes Google will index everything.
Home Page only, which means Google will index the home page, but not the galleries or their contents.
No, which mean that Google is asked not to index anything.
Once I became of the new feature, I changed the setting to "Home Page Only" which will allow those who are legitimately looking to find the site based on the words I use on my home page, but not the contents and captions of all the galleries.
It will take as much as a week for Google to get the gist of this and "unindex" the pages they already found, such as the ones some of you mentioned to me previously. This is an excellent addition to the SmugMug service.
Previously, I would have had to 1) delete the gallery, 2) Recreate the gallery from scratch and make it private by using a password, and 3)Block others from linking to the gallery, which also prevents me from using the images on the website. These settings would have made the galleries all but unusable for our less technical family members, and extremely inconvenient for everyone else.
So, it was previously an all or nothing proposition, so I adopted a wait and see approach and started sending in feature requests for more control over privacy. They listened, and now we shall see how well Google also respects the new settings.
In a week or so, rerun that search for your relatives name and see if it still comes up.
: Joseph William Carpenter
: Albuquerque, NM
Some people, including myself, were dismayed to learn that the contents of the photo galleries were being indexed by Google and were thus appearing in searches that had little to do with our purpose in having a website. That is to say, we were concerned about attracting the wrong kind of attention.
I wrote my own letters to SmugMug, and encouraged others to send them Email as well to politely request more control over the privacy settings.
SmugMug listened, and they have added a feature to customize the permissions that affect the google search engine.
There are three options:
Hello World!, which means Yes Google will index everything.
Home Page only, which means Google will index the home page, but not the galleries or their contents.
No, which mean that Google is asked not to index anything.
Once I became of the new feature, I changed the setting to "Home Page Only" which will allow those who are legitimately looking to find the site based on the words I use on my home page, but not the contents and captions of all the galleries.
It will take as much as a week for Google to get the gist of this and "unindex" the pages they already found, such as the ones some of you mentioned to me previously. This is an excellent addition to the SmugMug service.
Previously, I would have had to 1) delete the gallery, 2) Recreate the gallery from scratch and make it private by using a password, and 3)Block others from linking to the gallery, which also prevents me from using the images on the website. These settings would have made the galleries all but unusable for our less technical family members, and extremely inconvenient for everyone else.
So, it was previously an all or nothing proposition, so I adopted a wait and see approach and started sending in feature requests for more control over privacy. They listened, and now we shall see how well Google also respects the new settings.
In a week or so, rerun that search for your relatives name and see if it still comes up.
: Joseph William Carpenter
: Albuquerque, NM
This blog will change very soon
I have decided to host the blog myself on my own web account, rather than continue to use LiveJournal. LJ is a great service, but I have found another blog software called WordPress, which will give me more control.
Eventually, I may be able to integrate the announcements into the actual design of the website to create a more seamless approach, in a similar way that I was able to fully integrate the Forum and partially integrate the Photograph galleries by customizing the headers.
When I do this, all of my previous announcements should transfer over and for the most part you should not notice much of a change, other than a change to the colors and theme.
This new software will also give me increased flexibility over how the blog is used. I may even recruit guest writers and other family members to post special announcements on their own...
If you are out there reading this, please send me mail and let me know that my efforts are welcome and useful.
Thank you all,
: Joseph William Carpenter
: Albuquerque, NM
Eventually, I may be able to integrate the announcements into the actual design of the website to create a more seamless approach, in a similar way that I was able to fully integrate the Forum and partially integrate the Photograph galleries by customizing the headers.
When I do this, all of my previous announcements should transfer over and for the most part you should not notice much of a change, other than a change to the colors and theme.
This new software will also give me increased flexibility over how the blog is used. I may even recruit guest writers and other family members to post special announcements on their own...
If you are out there reading this, please send me mail and let me know that my efforts are welcome and useful.
Thank you all,
: Joseph William Carpenter
: Albuquerque, NM
Sunday, July 15, 2007
Carpenter News: Admiral James Wisecup to command the Navy's newest carrier
Hey! Joseph! I just had another thought.
My son, Admiral James Philip (Phil) Wisecup is being transferred back to the states from a 2 year tour in Korea. He will be the Commander of Carrier Strike Force 7 in San Diego. He will have under his command the Navy's newest Carrier, The Ronald Reagan plus 8-9 other ships.
This may be an item of interest for the family website.
Jim Wisecup
My son, Admiral James Philip (Phil) Wisecup is being transferred back to the states from a 2 year tour in Korea. He will be the Commander of Carrier Strike Force 7 in San Diego. He will have under his command the Navy's newest Carrier, The Ronald Reagan plus 8-9 other ships.
This may be an item of interest for the family website.
Jim Wisecup
ReCaptcha, Photos, Etc.
Hope all is well with you and yours. I would love to see some actual Genealogy news posted here, or maybe some news about a family event. Perhaps some remarkable achievement by a Carpenter relative? But since nobody has shared any news with me for quite some time, I will just tell you more about what's cooking with the website. Simmering slowly more like...
I have some pretty cool things simmering for the website that would allow more people to become directly involved in the editing of the site if I can recruit some good people. Nothing dramatic can happen until I can carve out some time to work on it, but the website is never entirely forgotten.
Except by spammers, which is another challenge I am working on. The spammers have ONLY bothered myself and Joe Clarkson so far because we receive the submissions from the Email forms. I will likely add a CAPTCHA to fool them. I am favoring reCAPTCHA because it has a secondary benefit of also helping to convert books in the public domain so they can be read online by current and future generations:
What is reCAPTCHA? <a target="_blank" href="http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html">http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html</a>
"A CAPTCHA is a program that can tell whether its user is a human or a computer. ... reCAPTCHA [also] improves the process of digitizing books by sending words that cannot be read by computers to the Web in the form of CAPTCHAs for humans to decipher."
CONTENT?
New content comes to this site at a notoriously slow pace, but still, I will keep asking. If anyone knows about any new content for the website, please let me know, or encourage whomever has news to submit an article or post to the Forum.
It has been a while since the website had anything really new. I posted an open invitation last month and have gotten no response. I know things are probably slow, but I also know that babies are being born and people are making trips to see the old home places. I just know that someone somewhere has news. Have you taken a trip to an old home place?
New photos? Want to add your collection to the image gallery? The space on the Photos site is unlimited, so I can accommodate all of your photos. Send me an Email and we can make arrangements for you to either send me one or more data CDs or DVDs. If you are more technically minded, I can also arrange a few different methods for transferring the files.
For example, you can share up to a Gigabyte for free on Box.net (<a href="http://www.box.net" target="_blank">http://www.box.net</a>).
Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Content Management, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files
"Box.net was originally founded in 2005 as a college business project with a vision of connecting people, devices and networks. Launched officially in March of 2006, Box.net currently provides secure online file storage and sharing functionality to over 750,000 registered users, serving files to millions of people around the world. Box.net's unique platform allows personal and commercial content to be accessible, sharable, and storable in any format from anywhere."
http://www.box.net/about
I am also considering turning the Announcements blog into a "community" which would allow a few select individuals to post to that same Announcements page. There may a few people who are active enough in the family to have more to say and we could keep that page updated more often that way. if you are interested in helping out with this, then please get in touch with me.
I have been swamped with new clients, which is great for business, but also pulls me away from personal projects like this website. When I get to doing all this stuff, I will let you know here, or you can just come back and check out the website periodically and look for changes.
: Joseph William Carpenter
: Albuquerque, NM
I have some pretty cool things simmering for the website that would allow more people to become directly involved in the editing of the site if I can recruit some good people. Nothing dramatic can happen until I can carve out some time to work on it, but the website is never entirely forgotten.
Except by spammers, which is another challenge I am working on. The spammers have ONLY bothered myself and Joe Clarkson so far because we receive the submissions from the Email forms. I will likely add a CAPTCHA to fool them. I am favoring reCAPTCHA because it has a secondary benefit of also helping to convert books in the public domain so they can be read online by current and future generations:
What is reCAPTCHA? <a target="_blank" href="http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html">http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html</a>
"A CAPTCHA is a program that can tell whether its user is a human or a computer. ... reCAPTCHA [also] improves the process of digitizing books by sending words that cannot be read by computers to the Web in the form of CAPTCHAs for humans to decipher."
CONTENT?
New content comes to this site at a notoriously slow pace, but still, I will keep asking. If anyone knows about any new content for the website, please let me know, or encourage whomever has news to submit an article or post to the Forum.
It has been a while since the website had anything really new. I posted an open invitation last month and have gotten no response. I know things are probably slow, but I also know that babies are being born and people are making trips to see the old home places. I just know that someone somewhere has news. Have you taken a trip to an old home place?
New photos? Want to add your collection to the image gallery? The space on the Photos site is unlimited, so I can accommodate all of your photos. Send me an Email and we can make arrangements for you to either send me one or more data CDs or DVDs. If you are more technically minded, I can also arrange a few different methods for transferring the files.
For example, you can share up to a Gigabyte for free on Box.net (<a href="http://www.box.net" target="_blank">http://www.box.net</a>).
Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Content Management, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files
"Box.net was originally founded in 2005 as a college business project with a vision of connecting people, devices and networks. Launched officially in March of 2006, Box.net currently provides secure online file storage and sharing functionality to over 750,000 registered users, serving files to millions of people around the world. Box.net's unique platform allows personal and commercial content to be accessible, sharable, and storable in any format from anywhere."
http://www.box.net/about
I am also considering turning the Announcements blog into a "community" which would allow a few select individuals to post to that same Announcements page. There may a few people who are active enough in the family to have more to say and we could keep that page updated more often that way. if you are interested in helping out with this, then please get in touch with me.
I have been swamped with new clients, which is great for business, but also pulls me away from personal projects like this website. When I get to doing all this stuff, I will let you know here, or you can just come back and check out the website periodically and look for changes.
: Joseph William Carpenter
: Albuquerque, NM
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